Podcast Episodes

Yep, we’re going there. The summer church slump is real—but it might be hurting more than you think. In this episode, Greg and Nathan are joined by guest Matt Smith for a candid conversation about what’s really at stake when attendance dips during the warmer months. Is skipping church in July just harmless vacation rhythm—or does it reveal something deeper?
Together, they explore why regular gathering with God’s people matters year-round, how your presence might impact a first-time visitor more than you realize, and what the Bible has to say about community that doesn’t take a summer break. Whether you're a pastor, a faithful attender, or someone who's been drifting, this conversation is for you.
Tune in and let’s talk about it.

In this episode, Greg and Nathan dive into the chaos of summer and how it can throw your spiritual habits off track. From noisy homes to disrupted routines. Greg and Nathan offer honest, grace-filled insight on staying connected to Christ—even when life feels anything but quiet. Tune in for practical encouragement and a reminder that Jesus meets us right where we are.

This week, Greg and Nathan chime in for their special 4th of July episode as they share personal holiday traditions—from fireworks to family cookouts. Then, the conversation takes a thoughtful turn as they dive into the concept of the Everlasting Now—a reflection on time, eternity, and what it means to live fully present but with hope for the future. A mix of celebration, contemplation, and good conversation you won’t want to miss.

In the final episode of their Overcoming Old Testament Phobia series, Greg and Nathan tackle some of the most common questions and misconceptions about the Old Testament. Why does it seem so full of law and wrath? How were people saved before Jesus? And where can we spot God’s grace among the judgment? From Genesis to Jonah, they explore how the Old Testament isn’t just a prequel—it’s a story saturated with mercy, hope, and the promise of Christ. Whether you struggle to read the OT devotionally or wonder how to preach Jesus from its pages, this episode is packed with encouragement and clarity. Don't miss this grace-filled conclusion to the series.

In this Greg and Nathan invite teacher Dave Shive to explore one of the Bible’s most complex and compelling figures: King David. From shepherd boy to king, David's life is a tapestry of triumph, tragedy, faith, and failure.
The conversation traces David’s early anointing by the prophet Samuel and examines the tumultuous, decades-long wait before David actually ascended the throne. What does such a prolonged period of waiting do to a man’s soul? Dave offers fascinating insight into David’s relationship with Samuel, his uneasy entanglement with Saul, and his eventual rise to leadership over both Judah and Israel.
Listeners will gain fresh perspective on pivotal moments in David’s story—from his apparent shift toward darker choices, to his reactions in the wake of Saul’s death, to the far-reaching consequences of the Bathsheba incident. Dave also explores David’s heartbreaking saga with Absalom and reflects on the final days of David’s life, filled with both regret and resolve.
Whether you’ve read David’s story many times or are encountering it anew, this episode will challenge your assumptions and deepen your appreciation for the grace of God in the life of a deeply human king.

Let’s be honest—parts of the Old Testament feel strange. From obscure laws about mildew and mixed fabrics to chapters filled with hard-to-pronounce names, it’s no wonder many readers feel overwhelmed or even confused. But what if these seemingly bizarre details are actually doing something deeper—something meaningful?
In this episode, Greg and Nathan tackle some of the biggest hurdles modern readers face when diving into books like Leviticus or Numbers. Why are there so many laws? Were they about more than just morality? Which ones (if any) still apply to Christians today? And what's with all those genealogies—do they really matter?
Along the way, they unpack how understanding the cultural and theological context of ancient Israel can turn “irrelevant” sections into surprisingly rich territory. If you’ve ever wanted to skip the fine print of the Old Testament, this conversation might just change your mind.

Feeling lost, confused, or even a little afraid when it comes to the Old Testament? You're not alone. In Overcoming Old Testament Phobia, hosts Greg and Nathan take a fresh and accessible approach to the Hebrew Scriptures—breaking down the barriers of intimidation and confusion that keep so many Christians at a distance. With wisdom, humor, and practical insight, each episode helps listeners see the Old Testament not as an ancient, irrelevant text but as a vital part of God’s unified story of redemption. Whether you're a seasoned reader or starting from scratch, this series is designed to help you engage with Scripture more confidently—and see Jesus more clearly along the way. Join Greg and Nathan in this episode as they take a walk through the Old Testament. 

Greg and Nathan take a hard look at one of the most common—and potentially harmful—Christian clichés: “Everything happens for a reason.” While often meant to comfort, they unpack how this phrase can unintentionally shut down grief, oversimplify suffering, and imply that God intends every painful event.
They explore how confusing God’s sovereignty with approval leads to damaging theology, and clarify that Romans 8:28 doesn't claim all things are good, but that God works in all things for good. Greg and Nathan stress that during seasons of suffering, what people need isn’t quick answers but compassionate presence and the assurance that God is near and redeeming—even in the hardest moments.
The gospel doesn’t promise to explain every pain, but it offers deep assurance: God enters into our suffering and promises redemption, not just reasons.

In this episode, Greg and Nathan unpack the phrase: “Trust God for the victory”—and why it might not mean what we think it does. Is it possible we’ve turned faith into a formula for getting what we want, rather than a surrender to God's will? Through raw conversation and biblical reflection, Greg and Nathan explore how Scripture often redefines “victory” as weakness, endurance, and even loss. Drawing from Hebrews 11, the cross, and their own spiritual journeys, Greg and Nathan wrestle with what it really means to trust God—not for the outcome, but in the midst of uncertainty. If you've ever felt let down by God or confused by unmet expectations in faith, this one’s for you.

In this series of God Never Said That, Greg and Nathan unpack one of the most quoted – and misunderstood – Christian clichés: “God won’t give you more than you can handle.” Sounds comforting, right? But is it actually biblical?
With their usual mix of insight and humor, Greg and Nathan explore the nuance behind this popular phrase. They argue that while it sounds encouraging, it can place the burden of strength on us instead of where it belongs — on God. The truth? God will allow us to face more than we can handle... but never more than He can.
Tune in for honest conversation, real-life examples, and a fresh perspective on what it really means to depend on God's strength in overwhelming times.