Ted Kluck drops in for a casual chat with Zach and Nathan to discuss his new book A Hard Thing on a Beautiful Day and other essays. We talk a little bit about the book, but mostly we discuss how sad it is when people turn their back on their faith. This episode has it all. Give it a listen. Don't forget to check out Missional Wear and all of the great products they offer, especially the TGT11 page. 


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